Re: Варвары...-- It is most commonly associated with the Byzantine Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Russian Empire
Author: Д.П. [257 views] 2014-07-30 15:15:46
In response to: Re: Варвары...-- It is most commonly associated with the Byzantine Empire, the Holy Roman Empire, the Russian Empire by Pensioner, 2014-07-30 15:09:04
ты про Византию совсем не можешь понять? Московский бзик про третий Рим давно известен. Отсюда и приемственность двухглавого герба.
From Byzantium, two-headed eagles spread to Russia after Ivan III's second marriage to Zoe Palaiologina (a niece of the last Byzantine emperor Constantine XI),[3] and to Montferrat, where a cadet branch of the Palaeologi ruled. It remains also an important motif in the heraldry of the imperial families of Russia (the House of Romanov), Austria-Hungary (the House of Habsburg), Serbia (the Houses of Karađorđević and Obrenović) as well as the royal family of Montenegro (the House of Petrovic).
Иван Третий действительно жил после т-м нашествия, но к гербу нашествие дело имеет очень опосредованное.
Или ты Габсбургов тоже в монголы запишешь?
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