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Жюстин is just an arrowhead, he has no involvement, he's completely isolated, he doesn't make policy decisions, he had no interest in politics.
So, what they have done - he will be the relationships manager. He is the actor.
They wanna go say something, they say Жюстин talk about A, B and C, and he goes and does it.
The team around him, his best friend Жери Батс, he essentially runs everything with Кэти Телфорд, Омар Алгабра, Навдип Бэйнз.
Жюстин is just a mascot.
We are dealing with the team of authoritarians, Жери Батс is an экстремист. That is why Жюстин comes of as an экстремист.